Tires MICHELIN or Vredestein

Am pus Michelin CrossClimate 2 in octombrie pe o masina de 1.6 tone si locuiesc in oras montan. Sunt exceptionale pentru pretul platit.

eu am folosit cross climate 1 din 2017 pana in 2023 si acum cross climate 2 din 2023 incoace. Nu am ce sa le reprosez, doar trebuie sa fii constient ca aderenta pe zapada si gheata va scadea dupa anul 4-5

Eu am CC2 și nu stiu ce vorbesc ceilalți pe aici, dar am mers la munte pe zăpadă și au fost asa impecabile încat e plictisitor cu ele.

In the snow, absolutely the CrossClimate2.

Cross Climates are great but they have more road noise because of the tread pattern. The defender is a quieter tire that’s also very capable.

I’d suggest Michelin, I had them on every limo I drove I trusted them good weather and bad. The ones I had were hard compound for life tire life but for my driving they were great tires.

PS4S > all

Michelin on my opinion... Ive had great performance and treadwear from them.

Wait what’s wrong with the Michelin 4s ????

My initial impression of the Vredesteins was, "Holy cow, the rear end is going to swap places with the front." The car wagged and bobbed all over the road. It was scary. After a short 5-mile drive home, I adjusted the tire pressure to 41 psi in the rear (they were at 40 and 45 left/right) and drove around a bit more to break in the tires. Once broken in, they drove much better.

Going straight they're fine and don't notice too much difference between the old EP500s and the new Vredesteins. Maybe the ride is slightly better due to the Vredesteins’ softer sidewall. Noise is about the same—they’re quiet tires.

We get a lot of rain here, and the Vredesteins are great in the wet. They’re better than the stock EP500s, likely due to their less aggressive tread pattern and greater tread depth.

However, corners are where it all falls apart. The initial turn-in is great because the front EP500s, despite their poor tire life, handle well. But there’s a slight delay as the rear wobbles into the corner. You can feel the car load up, and you have to counter-steer slightly to keep the car in line as the rear flops over. While the Vredesteins have good grip, the side/slip angle is so large during aggressive driving that the traction control freaks out in fast corners. When you straighten out, the rear flops back and wobbles a bit.

My wife texted me on her way to work this morning, saying, "The car is wiggling so much I think I might throw up."

Any type of turning has the rear bobbling and wagging around. Bumps in the road will also cause it to bounce around. It's just not a pleasant experience whatsoever.

After driving on them for a while, I’m considering whether running Vredesteins on the front as well might correct some of the handling issues.