Tires MICHELIN or Toyo

MICHELIN Tires
The Razor
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Rating 5.0

I have Michelin PA3 now and used them last winter. Not problems at all, they are definitely great on snow, ice, AND tarmac. They feel very very close to the stock AS and don't eat too much fuel economy.

Pros: great on snow, ice
Cons: close to stock AS
Vehicle: Volkswagen
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MICHELIN Tires
FoneTap
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Rating 5.0

I went with Michelin Xice Xi2 on 16" elbrus alloys from Tirerack, and the good ol' bi-yearly self-o change-o. Comfortable, safe, quiet... no complaints :thumbup:

Pros: comfortable, safe, quiet
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MICHELIN Tires

I recently replaced the stock tires with Michelin Primacy MXM4 and this thing is now QUIET. It's amazing how quiet it is even over rough surfaces and at highway speeds.

Pros: now QUIET, quiet over rough surfaces
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Toyo Tires

Tires - I almost forgot! The Toyo tires were fine. Like any street tire, they got a bit greasy near the end of a 20 minute track session. Otherwise, no issues.

Pros: fine, no issues
Cons: bit greasy
Vehicle: Audi
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MICHELIN Tires
Echidna
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Rating 4.0

We ditched the OEM Bridgestone Dueler HT 684II which is the worst tire on the road today with some Michelin Energy LX4s at around 50k, and that made a hige difference in sound, handling, and ride comfort.

Pros: improved sound, handling, comfort
Cons: worst tire on road
Mileage: 80467 km
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Toyo Tires
Racer_X
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Rating 3.5

Sorry if my comments offended you. With the Toyo T1-S, I've run 195/55R14's on both a Miata and a Rabbit GTI. I've used 3 different wheel sizes with those tires (and I've had two sets over the years). On 5.5" wheels (stock Miata wheels), they are a little too vague on turn in for my taste. But they have gobs of grip once you get it turned in. On 6" wheels, they are a bit sharper, and the grip is about the same as on the 5.5" wheels. On 7" wheels, they get even sharper, but seem a little harsh, and they have noticeably less grip for cornering and for braking. And when they get to the limit on that wheel, they tend to let go a little abruptly. I've also seen some lap time test results for other sizes of the T1-S (Speed Touring and GT cars ran those tires a few years ago), and it was pretty consistent. At the widest end of the recommended wheel widths, they were already losing a significant amount of grip and were very unforgiving. They seemed to perform best toward the middle of the specified range of rim widths.

Pros: gobs of grip, sharper
Cons: vague on turn in, less grip
Vehicle: Mazda
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