Tires MICHELIN or PHANTOM

I will cast my vote for the Michelin PS4S. I had a manufacturing defect on a set of Michelin's on my NSX. Upon my return they replaced all 4 tyres as the tread pattern had changed.

Yep. Mine went down too. Seems like 5 to 10%. But I love the tires. Very quiet. Do great in rain and snow.

Michelin city grips are elite and shouldn’t be in the same convo as the other two. They’re in a whole different bracket. Best tire you can get for the Navi hands down.

2020 highlander platinum here, original tires were shitty in Nova Scotia downpours. Got cross climate twos and won’t use anything else.

I lost <10% mpg on my 2009 HiHy when I went to the CC2. I figure 2-3mpg less isn’t that terrible if you drill down on the math and the added safety and in my case improved stance/looks is worth the small cost difference.

I had cross climate 2s in my previous vehicle and my van. I will be putting them on my Crosstrek as soon as the current tires wear out. They are pretty great tires.

I got the Cross Climate 2 and they have been fantastic so far! Had them on for about 5k miles and no issues and they feel great especially in rain

I put the Crossclimate2 on our outback and love them. They’re great (and surprisingly quiet) in the dry, have great grip in the wet

I have the PS4S. Under heavy braking, my front would understeer slightly do to traction and I would fishtail coming out of the corners. As long as I was smooth and embraced a little loss of traction, I was fine. Overall, the tires did well on my car.

I’ve had these for about 18 months / 15K miles on my 18’ AWD LX and I can’t say I’m a fan. Although they are amazing in the rain. I ironically wish for rain sometimes for longer trips because they drive SO much better on wet pavement compared to dry.

- The road noise is ridiculous on an AWD model.

- They’re wearing very fast for tires with only 15K.

- Drop in fuel efficiency once installed (~2MPG drop).

- Rocks, twigs, and everything else you can imagine get stuck in the grooves and can lead to a rough ride.