Tires MICHELIN or PHANTOM

I’ve had both on my 2016. The biggest difference I noticed immediately after switching from the dws06 to the pilot sports is the road noise. The Michelin’s are much quieter and overall have been the best tires I’ve ever owned.

I have been driving for about a month on Michelin Defenders (21"; purchased/installed at Costco) and will never go back to the Pirellis. Quieter for road travel, good handling, minimal difference in range

I ran the Michelins for 8 winters here in BC. They are an excellent tire. Good in rain, snow and ice (ice performance degraded after about the third season).

I moved from the continental EV tires to Michelin cross contact and had about a 10% increase in consumption… part due to tires part due to how much better they felt and I pushed more

The best of those is Michelin Cross climate.

I have the cross Climates on my 19 Forester. I love them. I can’t wait for snow.

Joining the rest of folks here to say that it’s worth it to switch to the CC2s. They are superior in every way. Road noise is not an issue in my experience at all.

Not sure why he would suggest an inferior tire. The Cross Climate 2 are an excellent all weather tire

The Cross Climate are nosier than my Michelin X-ICE, a dedicated winter tire, and the efficiency is about the same. They are a great "year round" tire but you pay for it in efficiency loss and noise in Spring - Fall.

I HAVE THEM ON MY CAR AND THEY DO GIVE YOU A CHOPPY RIDE AFTER HAVEING michelin tires for year on my car you can tell the dif.