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I've had HPS' on my car for two years and I can say quite certainly what you say is SO not true. They are def. low dust and have performed quote well for me at umerous track events and are EXCELLENT on the street.
I have had great success running the Ferodo DS2500 on the rear of the car.
If you want them even touchier get some upgraded pads. I highly recommend Hawk HPS.
If you adjust the regulator spring too tight, or you lower the car without releasing the additional tension that put on the regulator spring, the rear wheels will lock up. If you have it adjusted really close to the limit for your rear wheels (for optimum braking) and you upgrade the rear pads to Ferodo DS2500 and keep the Mintex Red Box pads on the front axle, you might also get rear wheel lockup because the total braking force at the rear wheels increases by 50% or so with that pad upgrade, and the front doesn't get a similar increase in grip.
What Wal said. I replaced pads with Hawk HPS which is a compromise street/performance pad so the feel of the brakes was changed. 1. Brake Fade reduced 2. Initial pad bite not as effective as stock pads - once warmed up OK, thats a trade off with ... 3. Reduced dust easier to manage 4. More pedal pressure required, this was due to larger rotor and the caliper sitting further out. This showed up a limitation of the rubber caliper bushings used in the stock calipers. Once replaced with metal bushings (Tyrolsports bushings) brake feel significantly improved. At the end of the day if you are talking about stopping in a shorter distance then many factors come into play including pads, tyres, weather etc. Assuming all the other factors are addressed then the A8 upgrade will give you some extra breaking \"power\" but the significant improvement is in reduced fade or repitition of that stopping power. The trade off is that the more fade resistant or race application the pads are then the less initial performance until optimal pad temp is reached. The HPS are a good compromise and I know that if I plant the foot the car will halt with this upgrade better than stock.
The MKIV is definitley biased towards the rear. A grippy pad like Ferodo DS2500 up front helps a lot!
It will brake much better! Get the hawks over the Mintex Red Box.
I have the Ferrodo ds2500 pads on the front of my car, they dust like crazy!!!!!! its okay though, who cares really? dust more than stock, but the dust seems easier, as far as i can remember to remove than stock. I have mintex red box in the rear....they suck. i second the squeeking on the rear brakes w/ the redbox. The only good thing about them is the price, and that the dust is little, and light colored. You will get plenty of milage out of your ds2500 pads. Mine are about 1/2 way worn, and i've put about 15k miles on them, and trust me i do not drive easy. i've had my rotors glow several times w/ them on, and regularly have to slow down from 80mph to stop lights and such. They wear like iron. when i first got them they squeeked like crazy, then once they got about 30% worn they shut up, now they are silent. They have less cold bite than stock, but not anything alittle more pedal pressure cant take care of. once they get warm/hot they start biting more and more and more....its awesome.
I picked up a pair of Hawk performance pads, the street ones, not the real aggressive ones. Got them from Tire Rack for about $90. They are the best tho. Great for the money.
You would get far, far better brake performance from Hawk HPS or EBC Green pads on flat, OEM replacement rotors. Those decorative rotors might look kind of cool, but they won't stop you any shorter, and could extend your stopping distance some. (Actually, to someone who understands the engineering of brake systems, rotors like those look really stupid.) And Mintex Red Box is a decent OEM quality pad with low dust, but they aren't very fade resistant and they aren't very grippy. They are comparable to stock or parts store house brand pads in performance, just less dusty.
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