Tires Toyo or Pirelli

I have them installed on my m50i and just tried them out today in the snow/slush/ice. Excellent grip overall, no sliding or wheel spinning.

I’ve had 4 sets of Toyo tires. 3 of the all terrain and 1 of the road tires. Have had zero issues with any of them. Great rides and last 40-50k.

Just fitted the PZero 2023 TT Race tyres. OMG. What a delight to fit. No tools needed. Straight on the rims. No need to pop them.

I have been using Pirelli PZero for a few years - TLRs 28mm on Enve Foundation 65 Hookless. Realy like them (heaps).

However the last set purchased have completely defeated me. I cannot get them onto the wheel set.

I run Pirelli Cinturato Gravel RC with CushCore inserts on hookless carbon rims. I usually run 27psi, but have done as low as 24psi. I have run these very chunky and rough courses with fast downhills. I have had no trouble.

My stock tires were low on tread by 30k and needed replacing - I got Pirelli Scorpion All Season Plus 3s and have been happy with them so far, including driving in freezing rain conditions last week.

Summer Tires: Pireli Scorpion AS plus 3s

* These tires are super smooth and quiet, amazing touring/highway tire.

* Good traction in wet conditions and in light snow but not as good in deep snow as the CC2s.

This is a bit of an old thread, but I use these on my 07 civic. The tires themselves are very capable (30k miles on them now, and I'm looking to replace them, so somewhat underwhelming tread life.) When I push the limits of traction, they are very predictable and feel confident, even in rainy conditions. I get lots of road noise, but that's almost certainly due to the car itself, not the tires.

Mine did this within 10k miles.

The tires are trash. Same thing happened to me at 24k miles.