Tires DUNLOP or WEST LAKE

You want cheap tires. Go Westlakes. Great budget brand.

I've run a few sets and no complaints.

Dude the stock dunlop's can't even handle muddy roads. I live down a really long one and turning out of my driveway onto the road always made the front tires spin and the diff lock up weird.

Changed over to as3+'s and it's never been better.

Stock dunlops...terrible in snow.

Winter tires...beast mode!

It's a night and day difference.

The Dunlop Direzza ZIII is worth looking into. A close friend has half a season of autocross and 4 time trial events (So about 17 twenty to 30 minute long sessions) on his ZIII in a 2013 NC and they still have life left. For autocross they're basically a less grippy Re-71R, but they come into their own on track.

Dunlop direzza zIII's good wear 9/10 traction never get greasy, great stiff feel and break away.

judging from the conversation here, I think I'll go for Westlake ????

You will never get the q4 hot enough and will be more prone to low side, the exact thing you are trying to avoid.

Looking at the Dunlops, they are rated poorly in pretty much every review I saw. They only have a treadwear rating of 360 which is pretty low for an all season crossover tire which explains why they're cooked at 20k miles. Most reviews I see are people complaining about them wearing out at 20-30k miles and being terrible in wet/snow.

Can confirm , the dunlops are absolute garbage in the snow. Bought a set of beater oem 16 wrx wheels off of marketplace today and will be slapping on some premium awd snow donut shoes tomorrow, almost hit a curb going five mph leaving a stoplight. They have as much traction in snow , as a puck has on a air hockey table.. prepare to buy tires if you live in a winter challenged climate .

Ah, west lakes, balance like shit like Rovelos. They’re a low cost low tier tire that dealers install to keep costs cheap overall.