Tires Vredestein or Sailun

I have just about 10k miles on my Sailun ERange and I have found them to be a great purchase. I noticed better traction in rainy/wet conditions and a slight decrease in noise. I just need to experience some snow and ice to see how they do.

They're actually pretty good especially for the price in terms of snow and ice performance. Very comparable to the top brands. It's a bit louder though.

Sailun makes a great tire for the price though, I ran my last set of ATs for 50,000 kms and still had enough tread life to get $200 for them on Marketplace.

I did some track days with Sailun Atrezzo R01 on my first gen BRZ this year. They're 180 AA A, but only cost me 130$ CAD per tire. They hold up to the heat and don't chunk but they're a little loud on the street.

I have been running the Wintrac Pro since Nov '23 they haven't come off yet! This tire has been hands down the very best all season tire I have ever run. Excellent rain and dry performance and very good snow performance. They don't hook up as well as Hakka's because they are a harder compound and they do not break as well on snow as Hakka's. But they are exceptional in more areas. I have driven all summer on them and it is almost winter here now in the PNW mountains of Oregon. I live directly north of Mt.Hoodamd I regularly drive the WRX north to the Seattle area randomly all year including winter. Mostly travel the east route or what locals call the 'backside' route which is much colder and see's more snow. I come west on 90 through the Snoqualmie Valley and these tires inspire confidence. I just measured them at 7/32" of tread left and I have put 25k mi on them in one year. I do feel like they have gotten a bit harder than when new but they still perform so I will run them down to 5/32" and purchase a new set.

I’ve been running the pros the past 2 years on the wrx. Going to put them on my wife’s cx90. And I’ll put the pro+ when I need to replace them on the wrx. I won’t put another tire on for a while. Absolutely in love with them. Amazing rain traction and a nice soft sidewall but not winter tire soft, great if you have coilovers. I run a high rate for autocross and these tires have been so comfy. Did great with snow as well. It’s not invincible like dedicated winters but you will never have issues unless you decide to hoon in state of emergency type of weather.

I just picked up a set a few weeks ago, took them to Moab on some dry trails. Performed well, even at 35 psi. Went and did some snow traveling, felt fine, especially braking. Went into some packed snow on the road at 45-50 mph and hit the brakes hard to see how much force they could handle before abs kicked on, abs only kicked on cause of no weight in the bed of my truck, never felt loss of braking traction or control. Went over a few passes passing people in the passing lane that was covered in snow and Was able to do it in 2wd, only time I needed to use 4x4 was when I had to stop on a section of straight ice, when on a slight uphill, once in 4wd, had no issues on the section ice. Then when I got the the trail head there was a guy next to me stuck in his ford f250 in 4x4 with a name brand set of a/t tires. I continued down the trail in 2wd. So far I’m happy, only complaint is the amount of sidewall flex I feel when going around corners.

Vredestein Quatrac (V shaped all seasons) are fantastic tires. The best, in my opinion, in wet conditions. I love those tires, they run perfectly. I highly recommend them. ????????????

There’s two Sailuns on the other Prius - they seem to be OK but feel a little squirmy to me.

My initial impression of the Vredesteins was, "Holy cow, the rear end is going to swap places with the front." The car wagged and bobbed all over the road. It was scary. After a short 5-mile drive home, I adjusted the tire pressure to 41 psi in the rear (they were at 40 and 45 left/right) and drove around a bit more to break in the tires. Once broken in, they drove much better.

Going straight they're fine and don't notice too much difference between the old EP500s and the new Vredesteins. Maybe the ride is slightly better due to the Vredesteins’ softer sidewall. Noise is about the same—they’re quiet tires.

We get a lot of rain here, and the Vredesteins are great in the wet. They’re better than the stock EP500s, likely due to their less aggressive tread pattern and greater tread depth.

However, corners are where it all falls apart. The initial turn-in is great because the front EP500s, despite their poor tire life, handle well. But there’s a slight delay as the rear wobbles into the corner. You can feel the car load up, and you have to counter-steer slightly to keep the car in line as the rear flops over. While the Vredesteins have good grip, the side/slip angle is so large during aggressive driving that the traction control freaks out in fast corners. When you straighten out, the rear flops back and wobbles a bit.

My wife texted me on her way to work this morning, saying, "The car is wiggling so much I think I might throw up."

Any type of turning has the rear bobbling and wagging around. Bumps in the road will also cause it to bounce around. It's just not a pleasant experience whatsoever.

After driving on them for a while, I’m considering whether running Vredesteins on the front as well might correct some of the handling issues.