Tires Toyo or Kumho

Toyo Tires

The Toyo snow tires on my car have been awesome. I kinda used them all season because the grip was just too fun. Somehow have lasted nearly 30k miles with a third of the tread left too, and I drive my WRX spirited on curvy roads a lot.

Snow tires make a car with decent grip in the snow into great grip in the snow. Especially in the slushy slop.

Pros: awesome grip, long lasting
Vehicle: Subaru
Mileage: 30000 km
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Toyo Tires

The only downside with the Toyos for me is slightly worse handling on highways...they like to wander. But everywhere else they're better, esp off-road. Never hear them slipping on anything. Quiet vs Pirellis. Same or maybe slightly better efficiency than Pirellis too, if you get SL rather than LT. It'll be a little worse with the LT.

Pros: better off-road, no slipping, quiet, good efficiency
Cons: worse highway handling
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Toyo Tires
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Rating 4.5

I've had the Toyo's for a week and really like them so far. Efficiency is equivalent to stock 20's, and they are more aggressive.

Pros: really like them, equivalent efficiency, more aggressive
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Toyo Tires

I had 255/85/16 toyo m/ts and they handled great in a snow storm that dumped unexpectedly. Im definitely getting them again. They look great too and aren't that loud

Pros: handled great in snow
Cons: aren't that loud
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Toyo Tires
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Rating 4.0

I would lean towards Toyo OC AT3 EV (SL). There is more user data available for it, showing equal or nearly equal efficiency result compared to factory Pirelli Scorpion AT Plus.

Pros: equal efficiency
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Toyo Tires

The only complaint i have for it is that the stock toyo tires are not “optimal” for extreme winter weather; they will still get the job done.

Pros: will still get job done
Cons: not optimal winter weather
Vehicle: Mazda
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Kumho Tires

I wore out a set of Kumho Ecsta 712's on my Miata in about 7.5K miles. Of course I was sliding the rears using the throttle to steer around curves on Highway 9 in California.

Cons: wore out quickly
Vehicle: Mazda
Mileage: 7500 km
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Kumho Tires
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Rating 1.0

Tires (Kumho Ecsta LX Platinum) were installed 6/25/2024 @ 151,xxx miles (with receipts). Manufactured date is May 2023. Currently, car has 165,xxx miles. As you can see, the two front (now rotated to rear) tires are bald! The other two tires have a normal amount of tread remaining however. I was running about 1° of camber front and rear, and explains why the inside is more worn, but doesn't explain the overall accelerated wear that occurred only on the fronts. I also have an alignment report showing only the front left Toe is out of spec (-0.39° measured vs. +/-0.08 spec).

In my opinion, this would fall under the warranty via excessive/premature tire wear, but of course I imagine any shop would fuss about the lack of rotation. To make matters worse, I purchased and installed these tires at Walmart, which I'm now learning isn't an authorized Kumho installer and Kumho's warranty form says they must be installed by an authorized installer. However, Walmart's own listing for the tires says it's covered by a 50k mile tread life warranty (see last photo).

Cons: premature wear, bald tires
Mileage: 14000 km
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