Tires Pirelli or Goodyear

Glad to hear it!!!! My wife forced me to stop being cheap. She insisted that I get the set of P Zero Nero M+S early last month as a precaution since the F1s are supposed to turn to stone in cold temperatures. I'm glad I listed to her. We recently had a bit of a cold snap that would have taxed the F1s. Now that I know you've had good performance in the snow, I'm even happier and I know now that I should be good for the winter (Maryland - Mid-Atlantic Winter that is).

I too was pleasantly surprised with their performance. We've received 3"-4" in the last couple day here in Utah, and I've gone out searching for bad roads and have no problems at all with anything that I've come up against. Whether the ESP is on or off you just point it and go. I find them completely acceptable for an all-season tire, and will gladly buy them again when I need new tires.

Finally I can provide some feedback for anyone wondering how these tires perform in the winter snow and ice. Honestly, after reading a number of posts where people were critical of tires of this type I expected handling just a bit better than an ice-skate... (IMHO) these tires did a whole lot better than I expected. I had a number of unplowed side streets with 4-6" of snow depth to navigate in the early morning as well as a combination of slush and iced over roads and I had no problems to speak of.

i run between 32-30 psi in minw with no problems at all. i am showing normal treadwear with that setting. The ride is good there as well, well, as good of a ride as you can get out of goodyears.

I chose the Goodyears.. to be honest, mostly because I thought they were just damn cool looking I've never ridden on the Potenza's, so I can't give you a side-by-side comparison.. but the Eagles are excellent.. very quiet (especially compared to the OEM Pirelli's which howled like banshees above 50 mph).. dry pavement grip is as good as I've ever experienced (and yes, I get out on the track once in a while.. and drive extremely aggressively everywhere else, as well).. wet weather grip is phenomenal.. they will break lose in extreme situations (sharp turns or in standing water that is fairly deep and more than a couple car lengths.. but that's going to happen with any performance tire) the tires don't give back as much feedback as my old Pirelli's, which got progressively louder as the g-forces increased.. but they will give you ample warning and they break away very predictably.. and better yet, they'll get back on track pretty easily if you ease up.. there is a touch of understeer in the handling, but not nearly as much as the OEM tires.. they're a bit more neutral when they are warm, tho another nice thing is that they don't tug at every uneven surface in the pavement, which my Pirelli's did.. also, the OEM Pirelli's didn't give my rims any sidewall protection, thus nearly every wheel now has curb scratches.. the Eagle's have a ridge that extends farther than the rest of the sidewall to give you a little security.. I have no idea if the Potenza's are the same I'm very happy with my decision to buy the Eagle's.. it would be nice to be able to do a back-to-back test drive with both brands, but how many of us have ever been able to do that? and yeah, I still think they look good

i've put about 2000 miles on a set, and I like em a lot better than the Michelin Pilots that came stock... IMO, they are slightly nosier on the road, but not loud by any stretch. The noise may also be a side effect of siping the tires. Really good grip in the dry and the wet. They were OK in the one snow storm that left anything on the ground this year. Definately not a 'real' snow tire though.

I weighed my MCS 17"s on a bathroom scale - 49 lb. That's with the 205/45-17 Badyear RS-A's. My 215/45-16 and 16x6.5" Enkei RPO1/Falken Azenis weighed 37 lb. on the same scale. 12 lb per corner is a HUGE amount, and is extremely noticeable while driving.

They're similar to the Pilot Sport Cups in terms of wear but I've been told that their grip levels are a bit below that of the PSCs.

Be careful with anything that Pirelli makes with an M&S rating. I've owned both a set of Pirelli P7000 and P7000 SuperSports, which are M&S tires. The SuperSports flatspotted, wore unevenly and did not offer the grip/responsivness as the regular P7000.

Now for tire noise, my Pirelli P7000 Supersports were quiet as could be. I read some posts about noise on them before buying them and thought "noise, what noise???" Well, after about 10k miles on them, they sound like monster truck tires roaring down the road.