Tires Nokia or Kleber

I have the opposite experience. 4,000 miles on the tires so far and my efficiency is *better* than the Pirellis by about 5%. They are better off-road, handle the sand dunes better than Pirellis

Interesting review. I’ve been running my Nokian for over 13000 miles and I haven’t experienced what you have on the road. I’ve felt they are quite stable and handle super awesome compared to the stock AT Pirelli.

I see extremely harsh winter conditions and run Sparco Terra 16x7 +35 (bronze) with 205/60r16 Nokian Hakkapeliitta 10 Studded on lifted 2023 BRZ 6MT. Wanted as much sidewall as possible for the types of roads I drive.

You should look at Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5 or Continental Viking Contact 7. I’ve used both on my Mini and I’ve used Nokians since I got my first Mini. Blizzak WS-90 are good.

Love my Nokian Ones. Seem to be good on efficiency, wear, performance, and price.

I've had the Nokian WRG models for the past 10 years and there's always been a song and dance with each model I tried. The WRG3 were excellent in the snow but the treadwear and dry performance was average (Enough for my driving needs, however). The WRG4 were slightly worse in the snow compared to the WRG4 (Still decent) but leaps better in dry performance and rain. The problem with the WRG4 was the susceptibility to dry rot and overall "wear" from normal driving. They have been punctured, misshapen, and suffered "premature" treadwear compared to what was advertised as the expected tread-life of the tire. But given how well they perform in my 4-season climate state, I would rate them highly. Tire noise is minimal, performance all around is outstanding, and minimal diminishing of performance through treadwear.

We have studded Nokian hakkapalitta, love them.

I won't drive on anything but studded Nokian tires now.

As for the WRG2's - had them for less than two years. Rotated every 6500 miles. Very noisy starting at 18,000 miles and down to the bottom wear bars after 23,000 miles. There was no way they were going to make it through another winter. No treadwear warranty from Nokian. The Entyres are quiet and the ride & handling are very good. I only wish they had just a tad more grip in the Chicago snow, but overall I'm very happy with them.

Hope you have a better experience with the Outpost AT’s than I did. Just pulled them off my WK2 Grand Cherokee and disposed of them after 15K. Either way had substantial cracking and dry-rotting in-between treadblocks and violent shaking that went away with new Destination AT2’s.