Tires MICHELIN or Toyo

Defender2 hands-down. Michelin reports an honest UTQG. Those tires will last.

Michellines are much better tires in general. I've had great experiences with them vs. Goodyear and Firestone.

I know this is an old thread but everyone in it was wrong. The Toyo’s are far in away better at dry grip than ps4s and better for track days as they are far less likely to chunk under heavy loads for multiple laps. It’s faster in the dry than a pilot sport 5 which is faster than a 4s.

Michelins are cheaper to run because overall they last longer both in mileage and cracking. $ per mile much cheaper.

I went with the Michelin Defender 2 on my last set, and now I totally get why they’re so popular. The ride is super quiet and smooth—even on rough pavement—and they’ve been wearing incredibly well. I’m already past 40,000 miles with plenty of tread left, so I believe the 80,000-mile warranty is legit. Wet traction has been solid too, and I feel confident driving in all kinds of weather.

3rd set of Defenders on mine. Such a quiet and great handling all season tire.

I got them today from Costco. I drove like 100 miles after installation, mostly at high speed. These tires are impressive in every aspect, specially comfort and handling

I'm not sure about the noise. I feel they are a bit more noisy of the rough parts of the freeway. More noisy than my older Michelin.

I have not experienced any particular issues with my Toyos (2020 signature), but changed them to CC2s last week after 38,000 miles and a nail. OMG, like having a completely new car -- no cabin noise, float over road bumps, and braking is dramatically better. Can't wait for the snow to fall.

They make a Michelin defender that lasts a lot of miles but I didn’t dig the road noise

I’ll never buy Michelin Pilot Sports ever again. The last set I bought would get flat spots while sitting at work for 8hrs and would take 10mins of driving to round out again.