Tires MICHELIN or Pirelli

I just got these for my ‘22 GX as well and am extremely impressed. It was good in the snow with the stock tires that came on it, but these have really taken it up a notch.

These are great tires. Now michelin milking it on the price though. They are almost twice the price of average tires. But not twice as good.

I'd already been impressed by how noticeably smoother these tires were and how they just felt invisible for the past few weeks. I drove them through two downpours and they were amazing. Hydroplanes I expected to happen just, didn't. I wasn't expecting them to be as good as they are in this nonsense. They just gripped, no slip, no drama.

i have a 2023 jetta with michellin x ice and she’s a tankkkk

having come from three sets of PS4’s in a row on a track-prepped IS-F, I’ve loved the stock PZero’s. Great feel, turn in, and they’ve been pretty quiet. Hell, they even got me around Austin in the snow and ice the last 2 days. Very impressed, especially considering it’s a “summer” tire.

Looks like I’ll get about 20k out of them too, not as bad as folks have warned.

That all said, they sure are pricey!!

The CC2 is a solid choice if you get snow and want something that works year round. I don’t think you will notice a difference in ride quality between SL and XL. Note the CC2 can have a bit of road noise

I did get caught out by black ice last week and skidded a bit but then also got caught out in a different place in my mums car which is on Cross Climates, doing about 20mph both times. Both times I luckily got away with it but black ice is black ice, Cross Climates may give a slightly better chance of getting it back after skidding but not enough to be worth it imo.

Ended up buying new Michelin 21s and got stuck in wet grass a week later. Bought used 20” wheels and tires, Toyo open country ev3s and never looked back.

100% agree. And honestly CC2s have disappointing traction in packed snow/ice. Really doesn’t deserve a 3-peak rating. They were marginally batter than the Michelin MXM4 they replaced.

Michelin AS are at least 10% worse efficiency than most OEM tires. So it's a double whammy, those new tires are probably 15% worse than the summers. Triple whammy with winter and it's a total 35% lost range. ... I'm in the minority but I don't buy Michelins and the 10% range hit they come with.