Tires DUNLOP or WANLI

I rode with q4's in the rain yesterday and alittle today. Did well on the track for B group.

I can’t speak for the pirelli, but the Q4’s offer lots of grip until you get to a good racing pace. After that you need slicks.

I went from Q3+ to Q4 for similar reasons. Instantly a success.

Continental 860+ I think has been the best reviewed winter tire in EU for several years now. I drive Dunlop, because the Continentals were out of stock.

I now have ZIIIs on my Miata and have been enjoying them. I’m not super picky and they were cheap but the grip is astonishing. Road noise is probably average.

You will never get the q4 hot enough and will be more prone to low side, the exact thing you are trying to avoid.

I loved the Sottozero 3's on my previous STi. I got a set of Dunlop WinterMaxx on my R now (got them on sale from TireRack when I got winter wheels) and while they're fine and even good in the snow, they are horrific on wet pavement.

404s are pretty shit, tbh. Even Shinkos are a significant improvement. The 777 and the 230 Tour Master walk the 404.

The Dunlops didn’t seem all that grippy though; I felt the rear start to slide out inexplicably on a tight turn on a clean road that was only slightly rough and I didn’t feel like I was really pushing the bike all that much - just light throttle and was riding smoothly.

Which slick do you have exactly? I ran the d212 medium and endurance. Absolutely hated them. The medium got destroyed in one day. Started losing grip after 3 sessions already. Then I tried the endurance compound, but it also lasted only 2 days and kept losing grip. Apparently they are very sensitive to pressure, temperature and shock settings.