Tires Toyo or Vredestein

So for I like them more than the ko2s. They seem more quite over the ko2s. I think they are a thicker ply tire than the ko2s and can support more weight as well. I get about 20mpg hwy at 79mph.

It sounds like your issues are mostly due to the tires. The stock tires aren't very good in the [snow and cold](https://www.tirerack.com/tires/continental-procontact-rx). I changed my tires to better all-weather tires (Vredestein Quatrac Pros) and saw great performance in snow for the last two winters in Chicago.

Also running Vredestein Quatrac Pro in a wet state that gets some snow too. Excellent all-rounder.

I am running Vredestein Quatrac Pro. Super comfy ride but still pretty sporty for a all-season tire. I would not hesitate to buy another set of Vredestein tires, all seasons or not!

Replaced factory Continental tires with Vredestein Quatrac Pros, which are infinitely better.

If you’re looking for a great off-road, snow tire that’s also good on pavement and doesn’t hum like crazy might I recommend the Toyo open country AT 3.

I use those exact tires. Unless you’re doing something crazy, they’re really good. I’ve driven them in horrible winter weather to very rainy summer days on the autobahn. They’re the best I’ve ever had.

By contrast, the Toyo Celsius has not only been tested in the winter, but it even performed well on ice. (Well, at least as well on ice as a non-winter tire can possibly do.)

I've bought a set of quatrac 5 vredesteins for my X5 ... 2.5/3 years ago ... about halfway worn after 25k miles.

To be honest, in the dry ... easy to reach and surpass the adhesion limit at moderate speeds, feel is mehh at best. Quiet tires, decent tread life, comfortable but no where near the advertised levels. Currently during the winter ... moderate snow ... nothing spectacular, slightly better grip off the line than the duellers, fairly predictable, but a bit short on lateral grip ... so if you are braking and trying to cut a corner on snow ... better be awake so you don't end up in a ditch nose first.

Vredesteins are shit for winter tires, at least in my experience. I had them on my C63, and it was like my car was wearing high heels. It was scary sloppy at 100km+ (60mph+) on the Autobahn.