Tires Toyo or Kumho

on my Golf with only Koni Sport adjustable dampers and Kumho XS tires, I regularly set faster autocross times than many of the \"darling\" cars in faster classes in my local autocross events

Try the Kumho ASX. They were quieter than any other tire I've tried. Much more so than the awful Goodyear RS-As.

I absolutely love my T1R's they stretch very well. here they are on a 9.5 and an 8.5"

I ran the Kumho XS (250/50 15 on a 2006 Mazda 2) last summer and found them to be fairly comparable to the superceded Bridgestone RE01R, albeit much cheaper. I did 4-5 autocross sessions on them on top of 'spirited' drives in the local mountains every weekend. My fronts lasted just under 3000 miles to slick and the rears around double that, but I do have a fairly aggressive alignment.

I love my T1-R's. a 195 on a 7", the sidewall is completely flat and right in line with the edge of the wheel. they stretch very well on an 8"

Toyo T1R's on 8.5" rims. They stretched awesome. Ride nice and stiff as to be expected. So far they've been great.

That being said I've had Toyo tires a few times and I've been happy every time

We have a set of Kuhmo XS's and Koni Yellows on the way - Santa was good to us!

205 45 16 has a little stretch on a 8" wheel. 195 has a lot of stretch. tires are kumho ecsta 712's BTW.

Based on the fact of how much I hate my Toyo Proxy 4's (235/45/17)and the lack of response I received by contacting Toyo I will no longer consider that brand for anything.