Tires Toyo or Cooper

The Nexens don't stretch worth a damn, the federals aren't much better. If you want the stretch and need it to work the Toyo T1-R is your best bet.

I absolutely love my T1R's they stretch very well. here they are on a 9.5 and an 8.5"

I love my T1-R's. a 195 on a 7", the sidewall is completely flat and right in line with the edge of the wheel. they stretch very well on an 8"

Toyo T1R's on 8.5" rims. They stretched awesome. Ride nice and stiff as to be expected. So far they've been great.

That being said I've had Toyo tires a few times and I've been happy every time

Toyo Proxes 4 (note: not the FZ4). Had them on my Integra GSR and would be my 1st choice when it comes time to replace the tires on my JSW.

Used to run 195/40/17 Toyo's on my mk2.

I've run them on both a RWD Volvo 240 and now on my Accord. I like them. They were great in the heavy snows we got up here last winter, they wear very well, and (at least around me) they are relatively cheap.

I plan to buy these tires for sure, they seem to be the top stretch tire along with the 512 Falken.

Based on the fact of how much I hate my Toyo Proxy 4's (235/45/17)and the lack of response I received by contacting Toyo I will no longer consider that brand for anything.