Tires Nokia or Achilles

my wife followed me home and she just plowed through with her Nokian Hakkapelliitta R3's, the new ones, much better...maybe I'll get those next year.

I haven't tried the Toyo Celsius, but we did have the other all-weather tire, the Nokian WRG3, on our family minivan. We went with those over the Celsius per the recommendation of the tire shop I bought from. The manager there thought the Nokians offered better winter snow/ice grip over the Celsius, while the Celsius was better in dry conditions.

Achilles, their cheap and have never failed on me

I was low on cash so I went with Nokian zLine a/s ones. They are a lot better then I expected for the price but they are great so far.

I like Michelin Latitude Tours until moving north. I've had Nokian WR-G3s for the past 5-6 years. Current set at 25k and ready to be replaced (at the 4, they come with 8,6,4 marked in the tread). They are an all-weather plus tire that is v-rated and super great in the winter and keeps me from having to swap from winter to summer tires. They aren't as smooth as the Michelins but, they aren't bad either.

Freaking love my 225/50/17 Nokia’s WRG3 outstanding snow and ice performance and never have to worry about random 70 degree weather temps we get in mass during winter.

205-65-16 run fine on our Alltrack, no complaints and rides great even with studded Hakka 8.

Buy the Nokian! The best snow/ice/slush tire made! In Maine it\u2019s Nokian, Blizzak and then the X ice in that order. I run the R9 studded on both my dubs in 17\u201d. Work awesome

my Achilles ATR Sport 2 last forever in the rear and have good grip

The problem I’m trying to solve is that after about 1500 miles they’ve become very noisy. I mounted them in November last year and they were quiet at first. A while ago they began to get noisy at 35 mph but now they’re "singing" at all speeds. They’re directional tires and are mounted correctly. There’s only very slight scalloping on the right rear tire. One theory is that the rubber is wearing faster than the studs and as they project further they make noise. A Nokian dealer suggested the warming of the roads as spring approaches is somehow to blame. My wife’s Audi B5S4 has Hakka 8s and they’re older and quieter. The Hakka 9s are supposed to have an "improved " stud.