Running Girling 60 dual pot calipers and carriers out of a 1988 Audi 5000 Quattro with 11" rotors from a Corrado G60 up front, a drum-to-disc swap out back with the proper proportioning valve, and a master cylinder out of a 1990 Audi 200 (non-abs). Braided lines feed all 4. Possibly most importantly, all that is run using RBF600. I have run all sorts of different pads over the last couple years but I have found that the car really isn't heavy enough or fast enough to need anything more than OEM type pads (even at track days). I did have to get bigger wheels to fit the front brakes so I found some nice light RPF1 knock-offs. The overall setup feels much firmer than stock and is very easy to live with. The only other nit-pick I can think of is that not all the pads I have tried come with shims (sheets of soft metal that goes between the pad and caliper piston) which leads to extra noise and can be unpleasant. I have found that most of the time, you can just move the shims from the old pad to the new and it works 99%.
Chrysler has a "kit" that is designed for the brake-swap (Teves -> Akebono) TSB has that everything you need apart from rotors - new calipers, brackets and pads, plus all hardware. See what you dealer's price is, when it first came out it was crazy cheap (like $100), it's a bit more now but even then when I bought the kit it was still cheaper than buying remanufactured calipers and brackets.
The facts are in ... same caliper as the Bimmer 750 il but the brackets are different Below, that twin piston R32/TT/750 il caliper on the BMW 750 il bracket. The BMW and VAG cars DO NOT share the same bracket. 34111163319 Bimmer front, left Right is 1J0615126 & 5B TT 3.2-R32 front with twin 44mm pistons for 334x32 rotors (1ZT set up) Left is brackets for DE Calipers with the single 54mm piston 288x25 mm (1LC set up). More caliper = more rotor = more weight mdt said: This is the difference between the [SUB](late)[/SUB] R32 334mm brakes and the 288mm [SUB](early R32)[/SUB] brakes: This is the [SUB]early DE[/SUB] 288mm set up (# 1K0615124J/23J) VR6 caliper next to the [SUB](late)[/SUB] R32 version: Click to expand... Thumbing through all this saw that you can get a SET of red powder coated Mk IV calipers and carriers for $91.29 INCLUDING the core charge. You'll still need your Mk II or Mk III brake brackets since Mk IV brackets only work on the Mk IV chassis. It's a damn good buy. Can't tell if they have the 38 or the 41mm piston though. Regardless, Audi TT 3.2Q rear brakes ready to bolt on, with the clips and warranty. Sell the p/c brackets to the Mk IV guys and recoup your costs. http://www.rockauto.com/dbphp/x,car...php/x,carcode,1431901,parttype,1704,d,2004_AUDI_TT_QUATTRO_3.2L_V6_Caliper.html Except for the Mk IV rear (aluminum) brakes both of the above options (including girling 60) are heavier than the stock Girling 54's. Those 944 turbo rear brakes getting run as fronts on the Corrado keep coming up because they're alloy, 4 piston and weigh 7.1lb.
For those of you who either have Girling 60 calipers or are thinking about getting them, this post should save you a crap-ton of time. The research here comes from a months-long ordeal which I’ll lay out for you now … Several years ago, I found a pair of Girling 60 calipers off an Audi 5000 at a salvage yard. I was STOKED to put them on my Corrado project, especially since they were a steal at $42 for BOTH. I had them beautifully shot-blasted and powder coated, which of course required that the pistons and seals be removed. As you’re probably all familiar with, other priorities in life took the place of my Corrado project, and the calipers and pistons sat for years. I recently moved from Los Angeles to Austin, TX, and the pistons are nowhere to be found. I had no idea finding caliper pistons would be such an ordeal. I did some research and found the part # s for a few suppliers, and I’m listing them here for your convenience: Centric 143.33014 This is the rebuild kit with new seals and new dust boots for the pistons. Each one will cover one caliper, so you’ll need to buy one for each. The best place to find these is on eBay, where you can get one for around $10. Don't buy the OEM one from germanautoparts unless you enjoy spending $80 for four rubber rings. Centric 117.33025 This is the disc brake hardware kit with new boots for the slide pins. Also available on eBay in the $10 range. Centric 146.40014 or Frenkit P405301 This is the 40mm piston, around $13. Centric 146.45002 or Frenkit P455301 This is the 45mm piston, around $14. Now, from what I can tell—and at least currently—the pistons are nearly impossible to find by themselves. If you look up the part numbers, you’ll find a handful of online retailers that claim to have them 'in stock', but when you put them in your cart, you’ll get a notice that, oops, they’re not actually in stock. OR, you’ll place the order, everything will process wonderfully, and you’ll enjoy euphoria like you just found the Holy Grail of the Last Supper, only to get a phone call the next day from a sales rep to ‘talk about your order,’ a phone call which will almost certainly end with you getting a refund, because you sure as hell aren’t getting the pistons. I even called Centric directly—but they don’t sell to directly to consumers, only to resellers. Centric gave me the name of their biggest client, XL Parts, which is in Texas. I called XL Parts and they don’t have the pistons in stock either. I asked if they could order the pistons from Centric on my behalf … which they COULD … but it would require me physically walking into a store, filling out a form for a special order, and paying for the pistons (and shipping) in advance. For some reason, they don’t take credit cards over the phone. Since I live 3 hours away from the nearest XL Parts location, this wasn’t exactly convenient. So my next step was the local junkyards … where I came up empty-handed. I even tried a send-us-your-part-request-and-we’ll-get-a-network-of-junkyards-to-find-it-for-you service. Four replies, all telling me they had what I needed … only to have them recant once I spoke to them and explained what I was looking for. In the end, I was saved by luck. A Vortexer had a pair of Gilring 60 calipers for sale, but they had a missing carrier and a torn dust boot, so he was willing to sell for a fraction of a full Girling 60 setup. But without something like that, I fear the only places you can get replacement pistons is by getting lucky in a junkyard, or by buying a whole new set of calipers. Or, you can always fly to Houston or Dallas and visit an XL Parts location. Hope this helps some of you. EDIT: For those of you who are being asked "What car is this for?", know that the Girling 60 calipers were used on the following: 1986-1988 Audi 5000 1992-1994 Audi S4 1995-1997 Audi S6 1990-1994 Audi V8 Quattro
The girling 60's I own are to large and I've given up on wanting to use them. They are stupid heavy and its not worth trying to find another set of wheels just to run brakes that do more harm then good.
