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Put a set of Vredestein Hitracs on my mom's CX5 and she loves them. Quiet and excellent in the rain.
The Vredestein Quatrac Pros on the HRV were the best all around tire I've had and I'm pissed they discontinued them in the size I need. Very quiet, 90% of real snow tire performance.
I chose the Vredestein Quatrac Pro's for my wife's ML350 4Matic. Quiet, handle well (for a beast that heavy) and good in the wet.
When I ran P1s in the 70s and lower they needed part of an autoX lap to come in. Also, P1s come in 345s so when they did come in they were better than 315 Yokes. Head to head in the same size I'd go with the tire that works better cool/cold. But the P1s are impressive mid to end of the lap and seemed to allow higher cornering speeds in my non scientific testing.
Vredestein Wintrac fahre ich in der Dimension als Winterreifen. Ausgesprochen guter Reifen.
Just bought a set of Ultrac Pro XLs for my 2013 Porsche Carrera S. Can't imagine Michelins being any better. Smooth, quiet, and great traction. I haven't really pused it with these tires, but smoothness through spirited corners feels excellent.
for 200 TW I tried the vitour Tempesta p1 and it shocked me.. amazing grip with good price! its too good you wont beleive its 200 tw
for 200 TW I tried the vitour Tempesta p1 and it shocked me.. amazing grip with good price! its too good you wont beleive its 200 tw
I doubt those vitour are 200 they drive like 140 or even 100 TW.
My initial impression of the Vredesteins was, "Holy cow, the rear end is going to swap places with the front." The car wagged and bobbed all over the road. It was scary. After a short 5-mile drive home, I adjusted the tire pressure to 41 psi in the rear (they were at 40 and 45 left/right) and drove around a bit more to break in the tires. Once broken in, they drove much better.
Going straight they're fine and don't notice too much difference between the old EP500s and the new Vredesteins. Maybe the ride is slightly better due to the Vredesteins’ softer sidewall. Noise is about the same—they’re quiet tires.
We get a lot of rain here, and the Vredesteins are great in the wet. They’re better than the stock EP500s, likely due to their less aggressive tread pattern and greater tread depth.
However, corners are where it all falls apart. The initial turn-in is great because the front EP500s, despite their poor tire life, handle well. But there’s a slight delay as the rear wobbles into the corner. You can feel the car load up, and you have to counter-steer slightly to keep the car in line as the rear flops over. While the Vredesteins have good grip, the side/slip angle is so large during aggressive driving that the traction control freaks out in fast corners. When you straighten out, the rear flops back and wobbles a bit.
My wife texted me on her way to work this morning, saying, "The car is wiggling so much I think I might throw up."
Any type of turning has the rear bobbling and wagging around. Bumps in the road will also cause it to bounce around. It's just not a pleasant experience whatsoever.
After driving on them for a while, I’m considering whether running Vredesteins on the front as well might correct some of the handling issues.
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