Tires Vredestein or PHANTOM

We went to an 18” square setup with Vredestein Wintrac Pros and it’s about as good in snow as her previous ‘16 IS300 F Sport AWD

The only "all season" I've ever used and thought was good was the Vredestein Quatrac Pros, had those on a 2016 Jetta sport and even guy that installed them asked if they were snow tires. But those tires kicked ass, and were 3 peak rated

Since your new one is a Vredestein Quatrac Pro+, I’d pick up another Quatrac Pro+ for the rear so both sides wear evenly and you avoid noise/vibration.

I put these on a couple weeks ago and was amazed this weekend just how well they handle in the snow and the cold. They felt a little weird for the first couple days after getting them put on, but now I never expected a rwd sports car to handle so well in the snow. Love them!

Very happy I have the vredesteins a try because I was super happy with them.

dude i also run these! I love them, def doesn't seem like they get much attention or consideration but they are awesome and i feel so confident in winter with these on the car, im on my third winter with them!

I\u2019ve got these on my ND as well. Absolutely love them. They perform great in the snow, and aren\u2019t too soft and mushy when it\u2019s dry.

Absolutely blown away by how confidence inspiring this car becomes in the winter with these on! We just got a few inch dusting and the stability is absolutely fantastic - this is my first time driving a RWD sports car in inclimate winter weather/temps, but seriously, this feels better than pretty much any other car I've driven with all seasons in this kind of weather. These tires shred in the snow.

I posted something similar today, is this a tyre brand specific issue or a coincidence Context I'm using same verdestein centuro.

I’m barely getting 10k out of my Vredestein tires that TireRack said would be as good as the name brand. They aren’t.