Tires Vredestein or Kormoran

Crossclimates were great in a previous car that I had to get in a different size. I just ordered the Vredstein Quatrac Pro+. it’s an all weather tire that’s winter certified and is supposed to have better wet and sport handling performance than the crossclimates. 55k tread warranty.

Tirerack says the Vredestein  Quatrac Pro+ is available in your size, it's 3PMS rated, and it does quite well in customer reviews for winter and summer driving.

I’ve just installed these on my car last week! I had the potenza s001’s on before that. And I only got 8k miles out of those. They were pretty good except for driving in the wet. I could get them to spin easily. I never had that issue with the oem Bridgestones. I’ve had none of the issues you say with the vredesteins. I’ve put over 200 miles on them already. I find them to be slightly noisier than the potenzas.

I have been running the Vredestein quatrack's on my 2017 Alltrack for over 5 years and 40K miles in that time. The tires still have plenty of tread depth and are very good/excellent in snow. I have an 850ft driveway with a ~15 degree upslope and have never gotten stuck for lost traction over those 5 years. When the time comes, I intend to replace these with the same tire.

I love them. They have excellent grip. I didn't notice a difference when I drove in the rain. Definitely would purchase again. Great tires for the price, amazing if they're on sale. Ultimately I am very happy with them and would recommend.

I’ve put 2 sets of Vredestein AS’s on cars and they are a good tire, performs well in TR testing

Being in the DC market, Vreds are favored by European customers it seems. I put a set on my moms SUV and she loves them. I've never heard any complaints regarding them

I live in Minnesota and got these for my Model Y in August 2022. We have 50k miles, two Midwest winters, and Im buying a second set to replace them now. I could MAYBE get another 5-10k miles but I dont risk it here.

I am getting a set of Vredestein Quatrac Pro+ fitted on my MY24PPP today. Will Report back as well!

My initial impression of the Vredesteins was, "Holy cow, the rear end is going to swap places with the front." The car wagged and bobbed all over the road. It was scary. After a short 5-mile drive home, I adjusted the tire pressure to 41 psi in the rear (they were at 40 and 45 left/right) and drove around a bit more to break in the tires. Once broken in, they drove much better.

Going straight they're fine and don't notice too much difference between the old EP500s and the new Vredesteins. Maybe the ride is slightly better due to the Vredesteins’ softer sidewall. Noise is about the same—they’re quiet tires.

We get a lot of rain here, and the Vredesteins are great in the wet. They’re better than the stock EP500s, likely due to their less aggressive tread pattern and greater tread depth.

However, corners are where it all falls apart. The initial turn-in is great because the front EP500s, despite their poor tire life, handle well. But there’s a slight delay as the rear wobbles into the corner. You can feel the car load up, and you have to counter-steer slightly to keep the car in line as the rear flops over. While the Vredesteins have good grip, the side/slip angle is so large during aggressive driving that the traction control freaks out in fast corners. When you straighten out, the rear flops back and wobbles a bit.

My wife texted me on her way to work this morning, saying, "The car is wiggling so much I think I might throw up."

Any type of turning has the rear bobbling and wagging around. Bumps in the road will also cause it to bounce around. It's just not a pleasant experience whatsoever.

After driving on them for a while, I’m considering whether running Vredesteins on the front as well might correct some of the handling issues.