Tires Toyo or Laufenn

FWIW I'm just now replacing my oem toyo tires with 33k miles on the odometer.

Atualmente no meu Kia só uso Toyo, são bons e tem uma particularidade, são silenciosos no rolamento, coisa que se nota bem neste ED SW.

Toyo tires are not flimsy. Many amateur race track drivers run them on their modified/performance cars. It's a premium performance brand, actually. I ran over a dozen sets to Toyo tires on my BMW and Audi cars for many years when I was doing track days.

Run them on my personal vehicles and rental vehicles. 10-15k per year and see no issue. They easily last the 50k warranty. They balance well, and install easily, good bead that sets properly and has no issues

I went from a Toyo Celsius in the stock 225/60/R17 to these bad boys in 225/65/R17. Gained an inch of tire and they really fill the wheel wells now. No rubbing and a very smooth and quiet ride

I just put them on in January and so far I like them a lot. We got less snow than normal, but they were very good in what snow we got. At first they were noisy on my Tacoma Pickup, I have E rated tires, but after a couple thousand miles they got quiet.

I now have the AT3s and love them. They’re quiet and handle great on and off the pavement. I’ve beat the snot out of every set of Toyos I’ve had and have only had one flat due to a pinch flat (sharp rock at 30mph). Southern California deserts are pretty unforgiving.

AT3s should go the distance but a lot softer tire I noticed. Got about 50k on mine but I had cupping due to alignment so I replaced them with probably 30% left.

those toyos are widely regarded as poor tires, they ride quiet when they're new but very shortly they get loud and the grip is pretty bad and any sort of inclement weather even just rain.

....and I'll throw in another vote for the Continental DWS 06. Also relevant to this thread - I bought my '11 Range Rover Sport in January, and it had Laufenn tires, the cheapest option on Tire Rack in the proper size. They had plenty of tread life but they were not great - noisy, not a lot of grip in any conditions - so first excuse I had, I swapped on the Continentals, and they are substantially better at everything.