Tires MICHELIN or Toyo

I have been driving for about a month on Michelin Defenders (21"; purchased/installed at Costco) and will never go back to the Pirellis. Quieter for road travel, good handling, minimal difference in range

Waited a month with enough miles to report this, however when I went from stock 20s to 275/70/R18 BFG KO2s they more aggressive and heavier tire took 2.5-3 MPG of efficiency from my 21 PB. I got 45k miles from those tires and they were great. In need of new tires I did some research and always heard Toyos were pretty good. So I felt like mixing it up with a new tire. I learned that Toyo early this year came out with a version of the Open Country that is for electric vehicles. A month and 1500 miles later, including some long road trips camping and my regular city driving, I can say that my trip readings are actually 1.5 MPG improved.

I ran the Michelins for 8 winters here in BC. They are an excellent tire. Good in rain, snow and ice (ice performance degraded after about the third season).

I moved from the continental EV tires to Michelin cross contact and had about a 10% increase in consumption… part due to tires part due to how much better they felt and I pushed more

The best of those is Michelin Cross climate.

I have the cross Climates on my 19 Forester. I love them. I can’t wait for snow.

Joining the rest of folks here to say that it’s worth it to switch to the CC2s. They are superior in every way. Road noise is not an issue in my experience at all.

Not sure why he would suggest an inferior tire. The Cross Climate 2 are an excellent all weather tire

The Cross Climate are nosier than my Michelin X-ICE, a dedicated winter tire, and the efficiency is about the same. They are a great "year round" tire but you pay for it in efficiency loss and noise in Spring - Fall.

I have the Michelin Defenders LTX M/S on mine. Those Duelers were crap and had to replace them at 35k miles.