Tires Kumho or IRONMAN

As for the Kuhmo 712 it is a great, cheap tire for dry and rain conditions but in the bigger sizes that I have experience with (i.e. 225/45ZR17) they stunk in the snow.

I got my first kumho after having goodyear euro t/a's (which bl*w) OMG was I impressed with Kumhos

I have 17" Kuhmo 712's and they are freakin awesome....

The Kuhmos are quiter and grip better than the Toyo Proxes.

It's been raining non stop since yesterday and here are my first impression on the Kuhmos: * They are very quiet on wet roads and expressways. * Off the line are way grippier than the Proxes. Under hard take offs in wet roads the Proxes spun a lot more than these Kuhmos. * The Kuhmos grip better on wet curves, tracking is excellent.