Tires FEDERAL or Vredestein

Stick with your Vredesteins. I live in the Great White North and swear by the quatrac's. You're not going to find a better value tire.

if you just need tires for street use and not break the bank, vredestein quatrac are the best all season tires i've ever ran (94'). and they worked great when i lived in Oregon and handled snow pretty well for what it was.

Very quiet, good wearing (I never expect much more than 40K of all weather usefulness no matter what the warranty says), and very good snow traction.

Switched to Vredestein on my City ZX21 earlier this year. Wondering why I did not do it earlier!

Just got new tires, upgraded from stock Apollo Alnac 4G to Vredestein Ultrac Vorti, the difference is night and day

We went to an 18” square setup with Vredestein Wintrac Pros and it’s about as good in snow as her previous ‘16 IS300 F Sport AWD

The only "all season" I've ever used and thought was good was the Vredestein Quatrac Pros, had those on a 2016 Jetta sport and even guy that installed them asked if they were snow tires. But those tires kicked ass, and were 3 peak rated

Anyway, for what it is worth, I tried the 275/35ZR-21 Vredestein Ultrac Vorti+ XL both on and off track earlier this year. It is still a summer performance tire. Off track, I was seeing slightly improved efficiency over the factory P Zero, but the Ultras were slightly noisy on rougher roads (no foam inserts); on the track, for the first couple of laps, they were decent (plenty good enough for spirited driving), but driving to the max lap after lap they got squirrely and very vocal.

Vredestein Quattrac Pros were decent but about 30k miles it looks like. The Vredies I have had a sidewall issue on one. They are well rated bit want more durability.

In size 225/40 (r18), their thread width is comparable to other makers ~205. Well, does it matter? Yes, in the sense that when you install them onto an 8.5 wide rim, you'll notice that you're stretching the fit, and the sweating starts. Installing a tire alone with a basic tire machine is no longer possible.