Tires Achilles or VITOUR

Vitour P1 for a long lasting 200tw that's only a hair behind the Hoosier. They also handle heat well, and come in some creative sizes

Best budget tire brand I’ve used is Achilles

Not a lot of ratings online but I live on the coast in NC where snow is pretty much a non issue. They handle good in wet weather, typical notes are they don’t do well in snow but aside from Michelin many all season’s don’t

The Achilles Touring Sport A/S 225/65R17 or their dessert hawks should be fine

I’ve used achilles on several cars for the last 10 years or so and they are a great bang for the buck. I tried them out a set of their ATR sport tires on my veloster N because I was going through Michelin pilot super sports like nothing and never looked back.

Sunday I'm doing my first event on the Vitour P1, moving from the Rival S 1.5. I'll report back.

Biggest thing on them is the sizes. They make weird sizes that can net you an advantage, especially on specific cars.

I've done about 1200 Street miles and it's a clearly faster tire. Hard as hell when cold. Like, the first mile or two is pretty bouncy. But settles in quickly just on street driving. I imagine the first lap will get enough heat in.

While I'd love to do an apples to apples size wise, the very availability of a 305 in a 15" tire at 200tw is a huge consideration. Like for like they could be slower, but the next widest 15" option is a 245" by the competitors' 200tw offerings. So, I'll post my results after Sunday's event.

The shorter overall OD can also help (or hurt) depending on gearing.

I just out a set on my daily and so far I really like them. I came from BFG Rivals. The P1 definitely grips harder.

They're very new so not a ton of data on them, but they seem to be running with the fastest tires, and supposedly are lasting longer while being cheaper to buy.

I've put about 1500 miles on mine so far and am impressed with the wear.

I dont care about road noise so i stick to Vitour Tempesta Enzo semi slicks, insane cornering stabilty, dry grip is phenomenal as well as steering response.

Go for the Vitour P1. Just out a set on my MR2 this weekend. Wow so much grip

I'm running them on my C7Z (315/345s on 18s). Only one event on them so far (next one is tomorrow) and can confirm they are stupid fast. I was running Conti ECFs previously and about 70% of my first event on the P1s was trying to find the limit and learn the tire.

Achilles ATR Sport 2 aren’t too far off but I’ve only seen the Federals in photos since they are scarce here in NZ

vegas eh. i just got a set of Achilles ATR sport off of Amazon for 47$ each shipped free. they're usually used as cheap track tires but plenty of people use them on all sorts of cars. if your not a brand snob check em out

They suck lol. They are loud, they hyrdoplane like a motherfucker, grooved pavement like overpasses makes them do this weird shimmy thing, and they wear quick. They cause the ABS to kick on super early, and lose traction fast.