Tires Achilles or Kleber

Just picked up a set of Achilles Touring A/S sent to a local installer, under $400 all told.

Ich kann Kleber empfehlen.

Kleber HP3 are indeed very quiet and comfortable

Kleber Quadraxer 3 sind auch ok, w\u00fcrde ich sagen. Bei Schnee und Trockenbremsen sogar besser als der Goodyear Gen 3 (der schw\u00e4chelt traditionell im Trockenen), nur bei N\u00e4sse m\u00fcsstest du halt bissl mehr Sicherheitsabstand halten.

Kleber Krisalp HP3, they are extremely silent and literally the best in snow and aquaplaning, beating even the main company's Michelin options.

Uso bastante nos meus carros e há longos anos, é uma sub marca da Michelin. E monta algumas marcas de origem. Há uns anos tive uns Kleber HP3 que duraram tanto como uns Michelin Primacy4 e que custaram 10/20€ a menos por pneu. Os atuais já não são tão bons em termos de durabilidade, mas continuam a ser uma boa aposta na minha opinião.

Ja sam zabatalio zimske/letnje, uzeo Kleber Quadraxer 3 na preporuku ortaka koji radi razne terene i uslove voženje, zadovoljan jako, zadovoljan i ja posle dve godine, vozim školski, nikakvo iživljavanje, rade posao skroz dobro.

uz vyse roka mame na jednej Fabii KLEBER QUADRAXER 3 (215/40/R17) ... a nemozem povedat ze by bol s nimi problem, jazdi sa s tym kade-tade, mesto, mimo mesto, avsak treba povedat, ze taka zima ako bola ta posledna .. tam sa toho moc vyskusat neda ... ale bol to kompromis, na aute ktore rocne nabeha do 6000km sa neoplatilo drzat dve sady pneu

Take it from someone who for the first 15 years of driving spent the big bucks on Conti DWS/Michelin Pilot's/Goodyear Assurances/ Pirelli P Zero's/Hankook Ventus etc. At least two dozen sets.

All a waste of money unless you are well off. I am by no means poor anymore but I started running the super generics about 8 years ago, Achilles Desert Hawk's, Gladiator XT's, Westlake's, Lexani's and now Lionhart's.

No they are not as good as the name brands, but every day driving you and 99% of people can't tell and you will naturally acclimate to whatever the limits are over time while saving 60-75% off buying name brand if you really take your time and shop around.

I've towed my 8000lb camper around the country, through the Rockies with some of these generics.

Just realized Carmax put a new set of these on the 2020 Mustang I bought from them.  Easily the worst performing tire in the rain that I have ever encountered.  Instant hydroplaning on concrete, when there isn't even much of any water.  At least knowing how terribly cheap these tires are, I may not feel bad replacing them before their end of trade life.  Dangerous!  Avoid!